tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post2162230006258371964..comments2023-08-23T10:38:24.775-04:00Comments on London Civic Watch: Uncivil disobedienceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-10112102889792895392012-03-29T14:46:41.325-04:002012-03-29T14:46:41.325-04:00Reminds me of when news media in Vancouver was ref...Reminds me of when news media in Vancouver was referring to the people who rioted during the Stanley Cup at "protesters" (this occurred during the live feed at the time).<br /><br />With the police in London, I do not believe that the word choice was a mistake -- police forces and government parties across Canada have been trying to cause the general public to think of the "civil disobedience" and "hooliganism" as the same thing (i.e. they are all a bunch of criminals and deserve to be punished without really being heard).<br /><br />That the news media in Vancouver adopted the same thinking shows how much they have bought the official story (or are being given the same script -- just as when the Police Chief in Vancouver tried to say that the rioting and destruction caused during the Stanley Cup was due to "anarchists"... a line he later had to retract).danhttp://poserorprophet.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-53805788736753802922012-03-21T12:42:03.710-04:002012-03-21T12:42:03.710-04:00Uhhh, given the past problems in the area, were th...Uhhh, given the past problems in the area, were the police there first thing in the morning to keep an eye on the area? Does anyone know? Or why didn't Fanshawe hire off duty police?<br /><br />How much am I bet that the police ask for a water cannon next budget? (It will sit unused for 30 years, but this incident will give them the justification for reactive rather than pro-active solutions)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-9969113512201299752012-03-19T20:12:23.370-04:002012-03-19T20:12:23.370-04:00The scary take on this would be, and one need look...The scary take on this would be, and one need look no farther than Toronto or Ottawa, where there is little distinction between the disgrace of Saturday night and the true idea of civil disobedience, peaceful protest, or the many forms of resistance to the blossoming plutocracy around us. <br />Mr Harper is surely not building private mega-prisons for indiscreet youths. There is no doubt much feeling of pointlessness amongst the youth of today. The root causes of that frustration need to be better exposed so the rambuncious kiddies can cause disruption where it will have some positive results.chickenshortshttp://chickenshorts.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-42990836891963035392012-03-19T13:12:03.866-04:002012-03-19T13:12:03.866-04:00Thanks for this, Gina - I was also disturbed by th...Thanks for this, Gina - I was also disturbed by the misuse of the words, 'civil disobedience'.<br /><br />These drunken goofs were not in the same league as the civil rights marches, the sit-ins where African Americans refused to vacate their seats at 'whites-only' lunch counters, and other such political actions.<br /><br />This was a senseless riot by idiots who are too immature to be away from their parents. I hope that they parents will come to take their sorry off-spring home for a few more years until they develop some more sense.<br /><br />There is no defense for their actions. People have been young and foolish for a very long time, but riots such as these cannot be dismissed as the acts of young people having fun - and they most certainly were not 'civil disobedience.'Interested Partynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-91631117592553399392012-03-19T11:40:22.891-04:002012-03-19T11:40:22.891-04:00Gina:
Hooligans, drunks, and various other slurs a...Gina:<br />Hooligans, drunks, and various other slurs are against all of the people at Fanshaw--Staff, Studens and Directors. We cannot tolerate this behavior. These are not just little kids acting out. It is a miracle someone was not killed or maimed for life. I commend the police an fire dept for their restraint. ColinColin Hendryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558668784429122759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-15963981354048589112012-03-19T10:45:45.027-04:002012-03-19T10:45:45.027-04:00Thanks for clarifying the Chief's innacurate l...Thanks for clarifying the Chief's innacurate language. He should know better.<br /><br />Unfortunately, the Fanshawe College Student Union President repeated the error this morning at the news conference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-38143960956295448542012-03-19T09:47:18.557-04:002012-03-19T09:47:18.557-04:00"Throwing stones, lighting fires". Doesn..."Throwing stones, lighting fires". Doesn't sound like much to be concerned about. From a distance. Using alcohol and stealing propane cylinders to keep flames burning, injuring police officers, preventing fire fighters from extinguishing blazes, destroying a media vehicle. Not on my street, please. All in the name of protesting some injustice, or as an expression of passionate youth, after a few drinks? Perhaps we could expand Chief Duncan's vocabulary if we don't like calling flagrant and dangerous violation of municipal, provincial laws regarding assemblies of the civic/people variety, civil disobedience.Bela Cosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-25250761802808021202012-03-19T08:51:30.239-04:002012-03-19T08:51:30.239-04:00I think that Chief Brad Duncan's statement of ...I think that Chief Brad Duncan's statement of "civil disobedience" speaks highly of the tremendous constraint he and his officers demonstrated by their exercise of limited force in a very violent situation where officers were bombarded with projectiles and verbal abuse. Yes, this was a riot and not civil disobedience. However the focus in this show of violence should be on the perpetrators. Accolades to our police and fire services that attended the riot and held their cool under extreme duress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-40297811920235571722012-03-19T08:44:05.781-04:002012-03-19T08:44:05.781-04:00Excellent point, GinaExcellent point, GinaBrad Duncan-Hinesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-6713402163639693542012-03-19T08:42:57.035-04:002012-03-19T08:42:57.035-04:00"an it harm none, do what ye will", is a..."an it harm none, do what ye will", is an olde pagan motto from before the days of civil rule, before the criminal justice code of Canada. It's commonsense. <br />We can't keep on regulating and legislating every action and doing.<br /> That just creates employment for bylaw enforcement officers. It's a license to steal and eventually, as evidenced by The Fleming Drive Riot, the rules become so oppressive and meanspirited that civilians loose all respect for authority and they seize opportunities to display defiance.<br /> <br />There's another olde proverb, "don't bite the hand that feeds you" that our civilian students would do well to give some concideration to before they start destroying other peoples property, reputations,and putting lives at risk.<br /> <br />'an it harm none, do what ye will...think before you act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-460062076455326962.post-83801455282985514302012-03-19T07:28:54.721-04:002012-03-19T07:28:54.721-04:00Hi Gina,
As your friend and in these days where an...Hi Gina,<br />As your friend and in these days where any taint of such behaviour must be removed from our lexicon I would caution you in the use of the term, notwithstanding the date of this incident, the term "hooligan," as well as "paddy wagon," could be taken as a slur against descendants of people from Ireland.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Rod BrawnRoderic Brawnnoreply@blogger.com